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  So how "worldly" did you get after you left the "truth"

  by greenhornet in

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  i don't drive a 4 door car.

  lol.

  i go to a local christian church.

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  Toesup We went to a church, for a high school graduation. I took a few more paper towels than I would have been able to take at the KH. lol

  
  

  Do you know how long it took for me to even use two paper towels in a restroom?
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  Shift in beliefs?

  by blankspace in

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  i was wondering whether anyone observed this point in the previous week's wt study, in paragraph 17: "jehovah’s spirit moves “the faithful steward” to keep giving his servants their food supply.".

  i see this as a subtle move away from earlier claims to be channel for spiritual food.

  the gb earlier said that they weren't inspired or infallible.

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  days of future passed

  I remember the articles about how Holy Spirit is used to pick the elders. How the GB is chosen and inspired by Holy Spirit. How they made changes with the Holy Spirit.

  All this in effect, made them infallible. Because when you have God using the Holy Spirit to "illuminate" the scriptures to the GB to make these changes, you couldn't be making mistakes or be wrong. Hence their use of "new light" as an explanation and all of the mumbo jumbo that went into using the illustration of how when the sun comes up, gradually you will see more detail and so the understanding becomes much clearer etc. Then you had the "tacking" of the ship explanation. All of this piling on explaining their flip flopping, means that not everyone was buying it so they had come up with something else. It also put into the followers minds, that nothing is clear cut with the workings of Holy Spirit and so they should leave it to the GB.

  Then the article came out about them not being infallible and that they were "spirit directed" instead of Holy spirit inspiring them. Which to me means the GB is not going to accept responsibility for past "mistakes" or present ones. They can wash their hands of it all. And the regular JW's love that the leaders are being "so humble" and are just like them.
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  Remember when we lodged in private homes at conventions?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  i bring this up now because i haven't seen any postings about that practice because i got out in 1977. when did wt quit soliciting private homes for accomodations?

  or have they stopped?.

  i hated it, but it was the only way we could afford to go.

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  My mother took all four of us girls to Pasadena from the Bay Area in an Impala. We stayed at a house. The people were really nice but I don't remember the details of their house so much.

  I do remember that it was so stinking hot, my older sister got a bloody nose that wouldn't stop and so we left early one day from the convention. She had her face over a cone of newspaper.

  What did we learn at the convention? Who knows.
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  Oh how this religion has changed! Would this have been permitted 20 years ago??

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  https://m.facebook.com/100002613343180/posts/2271710659592690?sfns=mo.

  would the old-timers even recognise this religion anymore?.

  this is from one of the international conventions held this year.

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  Well the US had all of those "happy" dances going on a while back. How is this any different than Christendom "blessing" pagan objects so they are "holy?" More like Holy Crap!
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  Crazy ass excuses

  by Crazyguy2 in

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  so it was brought up lately that my lack of faith is partially do to stories in the bible like the one in samuel where god kills david’s first born son.

  the excuse i heard today wasn’t that god killed david’s son no he just didn’t bless him so then he died.

  wtf!!!

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  days of future passed

  David killed a lot of people by disobeying God.

  1. Counted the Israelites - Did David die or get punished? No, 70,000 israelites died.
  2. Had sex with a married woman which is punishable by death for both - Did David die or Bathsheba? No. The child that didn't have a choice got killed.
  3. Killed Bathsheba's husband - Didn't die.

  And let's not forget that God "rewarded" the two of them with Solomon who also got some freebies in life with all of his wives, chariots etc.

  God is good to his "friends" but if you aren't, you can get instant death like the poor guy who touched the ark because it was tilting.

  I can think of numerous excuses the WT has provided for God, as to why he was right in doing these things.

  By the way, if you read the choices David had for punishment when he counted the nation, the first was having enemies come and fight them, the second was a famine. Both would have impacted David and his finances more than the plague he chose. And it doesn't appear that David thought he could possibly die. It's all good....
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  Culpability Explained

  by snugglebunny in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjtiyy480yy.

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  Yeah that's critical thinking for you.

  Elders tell WT about the abuse. They write it down. The gang knows about it.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBC0QxgGl4c
  
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  Animals living forever

  by startingover in

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  2. beliefs

  does anyone know?

  did jw's ever believe that animals will live forever in the paradise?

  i was having a discussion with a jw friend and he said they did..

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  days of future passed

  I never believed that the animals would live forever. However, I wanted to have my pets to live forever because I loved them. The WT never promoted the idea that animals would live forever.
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  “Bablyon the Great has Fallen”

  by lastmanstanding in

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  2. bible

  what have you not heard lately?.

  .... no discussion on “babylon’s fall”.

  by 1919 it was apparent that jehovah had passed judgment on christendom​—and indeed on all false religion.

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  days of future passed

  They got around it by saying that "the waters have dried up" for babylon the great.

  
  
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  Ladies First

  by snugglebunny in

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  i know a lady who says she feels demeaned if a man walks on the outside or opens a door for her or stands aside to let her pass.

  i just think it's good manners.

  being a gentleman has nothing to do with equality in my opinion..

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  days of future passed

  I like it when others think about me and hold a door open or help if things are going south.

  I do the same for others.

  If a man wants to be a gentleman that's fine with me.

  Why discourage their old fashioned charm?

  It makes their day and it doesn't cost you anything.
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  Can someone help me with a question?

  by Angelgirlnr1 in

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  i am not a jehovahs witness, but i have family members who are.

  and one of them is my cousin.

  we talk now and again, and i love him very much, both him and his wife, and also my aunt and uncle, his parents.

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  days of future passed

  Yes they praised witnesses who had sold their businesses, houses etc. in order to preach more. When 1975 came and went with out Armageddon coming, for a few more years they still had a lingering hope. But the reality kicked in when the money they had gotten from those sales ran out.

  There must have been many that wrote to the society about this. The society countered by mocking those who had followed their encouragement. I remember an assembly talk where the society said "there were those that in thinking that Armageddon was soon to come, ran up their credit cards thinking they would not have to pay it back. Hahaha." Then they chided the ones that had sold their houses etc. by saying "we aren't serving God for a date are we?"

  Lately, they had a video that called the sincere followers in 1970's "spiritually weak" because they looked forward to a date. Yet it was the WT that published dates.

  I was there in 1974 at a convention and remember the talk given on Sunday's keynote address.

  "It has been 6,000 years since Adam was created. How much longer after that did Adam finish naming the animals? Not long (because supposedly there weren't as many animal "types" to name) How long after that was Eve created? We don't know, but certainly it wouldn't be long after Adam noticed that the animals had their mate, that he would feel lonely. How long after Eve was created, did they sin? Not long (because otherwise Eve would have gotten pregnant) So Brothers and Sisters, whether it is days, or months these things occurred, we know it won't be long for God to act and bring an end to this old world."

  Of course, this isn't word for word, but it is how I remember it. The whole stadium was silent at the end of this talk.

  The last push the society did like 8 years ago about the world being so close to the end, the owner of the sign shop I worked in, sold the business so she could pioneer. So they are very persuasive in getting people to follow their directions.